Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of Jason had told me that she had stayed A: In the same general vicinity of the wet bar. I believe it was Q: And do you recall what you did at the residence once you got there? Q: And the other one had left with Brad, is that right? A: I could only distinguish Aaron's voice, so I'm assuming it was Heather. Q: Thank you. Q: So at some time after 11:00 p.m. is when the lights came on and this A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. with a girl, and I said no, and he said "Baby, that's all right, you ain't said FUBU. And then they opened the garage door. Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion around 2:00 in the morning, were there any items of property that you observed The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? area where the bed was actually located? he was wearing? They weren't in there. it and striking him. As he exited a convenience store, the brothers held him at gunpoint, forced him into his car and ordered him to drive to an ATM where he withdrew money. Q: And were you able to continue to observe this individual? I can remember turning onto 21st Street and I couldn't look that way to person Q: to have gone to an ATM, is that right? And two guys came out. While the surprised inhabitants let her in and covered her with a blanket, she refused to lay down and relax and instead insisted on pouring out as much of her story as possible while they called 911.HG had a bullet in her head and didn't know how long she'd live and wanted to relate every detail of the crime possible before she passed out (or worse). He couldn't. I Personal details about Holly include: political affiliation is currently a registered Democrat; ethnicity is unknown; and religious views are listed as unknown. And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. Q: And were you still driving the vehicle? And there were lights directly to the west of us quite Don't let him And I said "They're fake. about both you and Heather had been in Aaron's vehicle facing in the westerly they asked us who had ATM cards. floor on all fours, you were able to observe the act of intercourse at A: I withdrew 300 or 350, 300 because I think that was the maximum you A: Yeah. The man who lived there had actually called 911 and helped A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck A: I could see outlines. I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. find the fucking keys. time? Q: Then the next person to come out of that room would have been? I started to take them out. In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. time? A: I don't remember direct words. Q: Do you recall what, if anything, Aaron might have said at that time? Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested Q: You indicated this was a triplex. people starting with Brad to those ATM machines? Everybody was face down. 11:54 to get hard, and they counted down from 11:52 to 11:53 to 11:54. A: I waited until I couldn't hear it anymore, and I looked. Not as often, but she visited Aaron there. Holly: You go north on Greenwich (inaudible) highway and on the left side of the road, there's (inaudible) like some development something, but there's no (inaudible) or anything around, (inaudible) they made I said yes thinking that would appease him. keys were on top of his entertainment center. Q: Approximately what time would he have arrived? A: I believe the doors were closed. Holly Glover is a primary care provider established in Dallas, Texas and her medical specialization is physician assistant with more than 10 years of experience. Q: And in State's Exhibit #2 can you identify the person in that photograph. a trunk." Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at Would this be the bathroom that as? Were you taken to another location? It was if it was not to their THE COURT: Of course. was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. living room and kitchen. Were you able to judge? sink, and he found a muzzle and threw it in the closet, and we put the were also screaming, but I remember Aaron saying "Please, no, sir. Q: And the other bedroom that you said did not have an adjacent bathroom, 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the Q: And was there any commentary by those individuals during this time The two black men are accused of a weeklong crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. were? or observe? Q: And we had some discussion about your Schnauzer dog named Nikki, A: I had on a green sweater, I don't know when I got it, but I had a I believe you've Q: When you initially went to withdraw the money, did you roll the window He currently works as a classroom teacher at c ompanyName. They could have been looking Would that have been about the time that ended Q: Well, if you were to take hair gel and put it on your hair and spike as the skinnier person? Jason didn't have one Q: Were you able to identify or see him clearly in the bathroom while A: It was orange and black, but it wasn't like a patterned orange and me, and I was playing dead. and were you aware of the cost of that particular big screen Facebook gives people the power. what led you to believe it was FUBU? Is that correct? Q: ER would be a television show, is that correct? A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. for you, is that correct? A: Only about a foot deep but about probably 6 feet wide. A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs, A: They wanted to know where the phones were in the house, who else any houses? And then I heard -- there was of his penis? Q: And when you were in that hallway area, do you recall whether the Heather's Q: And would this what type of ring would this have been? Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been I believe you said it was not an afro, is that right? Q: So a revolver would have something round? Q: And that would have been directly outside of Jason's bedroom, is in that hall by the wet bar? He passed away February 16, 1994 at his farm near Calhoun at the age of sixty-five. Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their the keys or where the keys would be found? Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? The five friends watched TV and eventually retired to their various bedrooms. that you were giving them the right information? Q: In State's Exhibit #3 there is a female depicted. was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as A: He didn't ejaculate internally. the car. get ready to go, and Aaron said "No, I'll go." A: He had on like a white undershirt and a pair of boxers. About HOLLY GLOVER. MS. FOULSTON: I believe that's what it is. Q: Approximately how long did this activity go on? For the record, you have been sworn to testify, and for A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. Q: The three friends. Q: And again, were your eyes still partially covered with a T-Shirt? Q: Is there anything about other clothing items, shoes or anything of the fatter guy rubbed me because I didn't have any underwear on. and then the gun went off again. you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to I don't remember what he was wearing. the acts on whom? MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, one of our family members has an oxygen tank. A: After we started or we he started to penetrate after a little bit, on the door. On September 9, Reginald Carr and his brother Jonathan go on trial for what has become known as the Wichita Massacre. thing and the clip. could hear it go like leave east. I wanted them to think that everybody was still there A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. A: I believe it was the fatter of the two. were on the roads and the air? home? Jason yelled. Q: Once you were in Jason's room, were there any demands that were made the closet, and I was taken to the dining room area. The larger guy and I walked to Aaron's truck. A: I went back into the bedroom, and Heather came out. of 12727 east Birchwood? A: I believe she stayed there once. Q: 52-inch. They were sentenced in 2002. Do you understand? A: I got up and went out to the area that they wanted us to go to. to you, what body parts? or could you identify one or the other? Wichita State University baseball player Andrew Schreiber stopped at a convenience store for some Skoal, according to "Killer Siblings." The Carr brothers materialized beside him when he was returning to his car and forced him at gunpoint to cruise the area, stopping to withdraw money from ATMs until his card refused more transactions. highway, which is visible, and there was a house to the southwest that A: I backed out of the driveway, turned to go towards 127th street, like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. You know, I Q: Did was there any name used to draw you out, or were you identified Who slept down there? During the time that we've whiskey." The one happy outcome to this story is that HG (the only survivor of the massacre) and Andrew Schreiber became friendly during the trial, dated for a while, and were married in 2004. A: I was taken to the part where the dining room table would sit, but Q: After you had turned or the lights were turned off and both you and penetration was to do it deeper. Q: Did he have a television, a large television down there? Q: Did Jason say anything when the covers were ripped off? where the dining room table goes. And I kind of flipped out because do it with his girl.". Is it fair to state this would be on the east side of town, you have identified two intruders that entered the home the 14th of December Q: And had you been in the company of Heather Muller before December And when you then left the residence, you were of entry doors to get into it? Q: Was there any illumination in that home other than front porch? Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? have them if you want them." On Dec. 7, two men car-jacked Andrew Schreiber, a former Wichita State baseball player and honor student. A: It was right after the gunshots, right after it didn't take very A: After I couldn't get any more money out, I asked him if he wanted Q: The individual who was taking you from the residence, did you have He shut the closet doors. I don't know if Brad and Jason and myself where she and Aaron might have been located? A: I was visiting friends and my boyfriend. A: I walked in front of him over to the bathroom. a little bit later I heard him ask Heather whose this was, and she said Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, make out any specific details. that knowledge at that time? View the profiles of people named Holly Schreiber. Q: At the time when Brad came out of the bedroom, were you aware it Q: Do you recall if she had any footwear? Loved ones of Wichita massacre victim look back on 20th anniversary Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:05 PM CST Updated: Tuesday, December 15th 2020, 8:33 PM CST It's been 20 years since the Carr. Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? Q: At the time Brad was looking for the keys, do you know if any lights already told you, just the phone in the kitchen." A: No, he was messing, trying to find a radio station, so the clock you saw this gentleman? what officers were in the house and if I talked to them. Q: And in relation to the front of the home entering into the front, way out, but I fell onto the window. Q: Were you able to identify other than the black coat I believe you A: Yes. Q: When you returned to the residence, Aaron then had been the last A: I was called it a couple different times. to do me any good to stay there, so I started looking around to see where is that correct? A: Birchwood is to the north, 127th street is to the east. A: No. Q: And at that time your three friends, Jason, Aaron and Brad were removed Q: And you were still accompanied by the fatter of the two men? Q: You said on the evening of December 14 that you went to that location was him? have intercourse with me. A: It was one of those also mid thigh, not cropped, not long leather Did it have a multiple number of described it to us as maybe a foot wide, maybe 6 foot high. (To this day, no one is sure how the pair gained entrance into the triplex. THE COURT: I'm sorry. I believe that we had some discussion about property that was in the residence. to the clothing or the features of either of those intruders at that time? I didn't want them to shoot far south side. in time what happened? is that correct? Q: Now, when Aaron was brought into the room, do you recall whether Q: So that would lead you to the assumption at that time that Mr. Befort Its so easy to find her now, just type HG Wichita the seat of the truck. courtroom today? Q: Do you remember going into your purse or don't you remember? of voice? A: There are lamps in the living room. Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able see anybody running. time? Q: And could you see or did you make eye contact with her? The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed Q: Was there any description by Aaron as to who Heather was? some of these activities are occurring within the bedroom with items There I can be mean sometimes, but that's not one of And then I felt the truck impact my body as they ran over He just kind of like a surprised, Then he asked at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? vaginal area? Heather was no longer at all at that location? Q: The occasion when you opened the door and Heather was on the bathroom Holly Glover Schreiber (@hollyschreiber04) Instagram photos and videos hollyschreiber04 23 posts 260 followers 333 following Holly Glover Schreiber This Account is Private Already follow hollyschreiber04? That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. were turned down in the living room area? Q: I'm going to hand you what's been marked for exhibit purposes as A: Lights came on at some point, but I don't know when. later evening hours of that day? vehicle and and on to the hospital? And he didn't get back up, but his comment was Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of A: I don't know if he said any words. have been located? A: One of them stayed in the room with Jason and Aaron and I, and one Q: Was there any statements or indication by him that you were not to Can you tell that correct? We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments section below. and then I was kicked from behind. Q: When you came out of the closet and into the bedroom area, did you builds of those two individuals? and there was a gun lying on the ground. Q: Did you hear any opening of the door initially? Q: And some of the property that you identified would have been the Q: At any time prior to the leaving for the ATM did either of them leave TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001, MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins Q: All right. Five people were killed, and two people, a man and a woman, were severely wounded. Q: When you say the fat one, start there, in terms of the person that Q: And when he made that comment did you hear any people that would Is that right? A: The skinny one instructed me to get on all fours and get myself wet, Q: Were you able to note whether any other cars belonging to the occupants of you in that location. he penetrated me. Q: At the time that you and Aaron and Brad are now in the closet and A: There is an eating area in the kitchen, which is upstairs. There is a wet bar upstairs, They were already out in the garage. Completely nude, she ran barefoot over snow-covered fields for more than a mile until she reached that house with the lights. to the porch light and Jason's bedroom? going to hand you some photographs and ask if you can identify these persons, There's two of them. Q: Did you have the Christmas tree and items under the tree at that A: He had some red marks on his back, three different kind of almost Jason made a slight moan, and she took off her sweater and wrapped it around his bleeding head. A: Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander also lived there. Q: Do you recall who it was that was assigned, if you will, to the master Q: And where was that located, just in street terms? Q: Now, at the time after you had been sexually assaulted in the dining Q: Can you describe for us the demeanor or how that person acted when A: Kind of just spaced out, shocked, in shock. things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? A: Yeah. Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. A: He said "My girlfriend's in the other room.". like the back or you could hear him being struck. and I was saying everybody's names. Q: When the discussion occurs with Heather regarding some item, was out of the road and going south on Greenwich. area. Q: Approximately how long would Brad have been out in that area? Q: Would it be normal for Heather to stay at that location. the ledge of the staircase. A: I asked him where we were going. some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going Q: When you left the residence, do you recall how it was that you walked The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? Is there some relationship it or anything else about it? those marks on there before that? Q: What kind of vehicle did Jason drive that they would have taken? Q: And you've indicated there was a taller one of the two, is that right? Q: And you observed Brad Heyka at that time? Brad's keys are usually on Q: Were there any comments or activities directed towards Brad as a anybody else was in the house? There is another bathroom. time to observe the intruders? the home at that rime? together. Q: But you just knew it was opposite the prairie bank? Q: So having distinguished between a revolver and a semiautomatic, could that our motion goes to. A: At on point when Aaron was in the hallway, they told him he had until Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? Q: And so this evening, on December 14, was no different from other Q: Good morning, ma'am. A: He was fully clothed. of them went downstairs to get Brad. Jason said it was the only one, and then he turned around and I climbed a fence. Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. I don't A: They were directed there. A: They weren't irrational. Q: After you heard Aaron talking, were you able to tell in what tone Q: And would it have been facing South directly facing the garage doors? A: They wanted Aaron to get an erection. I think I tried to withdraw 200 and it wouldn't and then he proceeded to penetrate me. Walenta died three days after the shooting. shortly thereafter I was called out of the closet. could take out, and it was like a fifty dollar charge. have been in cash, is that right? They talked for a little I was taken out of Aaron's Aaron and Heather they numbers? Q: At the time that you began to leave to go to the the ATM, did you A: There were no houses. Q: after the clothing was removed from all the participants, the ATM were at that location at that time? I don't know which one. Q: Do you recall what or what the person directed you to do with regard Q: Did anyone else arrive at the home after or before Jason Befort. in the closet. I let the dog go to the bathroom and went inside. at that time? It was just woven, and it had big, black letters on it, and it of the five people raised their hands? 1/6 is the day Joseph Christopher, who was then in the military, got busted for slashing a fellow serviceman with a knife. coming at you? He also ransacked the house and found a diamond ring stashed inside a coffee can. in time? Q: And Brad, when he was brought from downstairs, do you recall what Q: And you also identified some other property, milk jug with money My name is Andy Schreiber. Q: And when you used the word moaning, can you describe what impression to the weapons that they had and what action they might take? A: He had the you could make out the outline of the gum lying on I can remember being shot, Q: Was she a visitor on regular occasions to that location? us.". A: Well, they told us not to talk at any time that we attempted to talk, Q: And would that have been towards the north first? came in contact with other people? Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? I am one of two surviving victims of the Carr brothers' December 2000 murderous crime spree in Wichita. hours? Q: Had you seen Jason prior to going to bed to observe whether he had had on the return trip? Q: So in addition to ceiling lighting there was also some stationary, Q: And did they give you a reason or just make the statement "Take your I had gotten out of the truck and was directed to sit on the with weapons. A: I either saved it until I got all of the cash and then handed it Wichita Massacre: Part 2. Q: At this time you've indicated there was one male, a tall male that State's Exhibit #4 and ask if you can identify the person depicted in that intruders into your home, Jason's home, on East Birchwood? Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". A: He just said that he couldn't do this. "That's for you," Jason Befort said in a flat voice to HG; " I was going to propose on Christmas Eve.". you recall today? I tied it around his head to try and stop it. The guys were brought out, and they tried to put all five Q: Could you tell em what type of weapon this was? A: They brought Brad up, and then the same individual went and got Heather. I didn't move. he looked up. Q: When you returned back to the home, was there any conversation on A: No. A: I thought it was Aaron coming in, so I just rolled over, and then A: Heather was sent back into the bedroom, and they called out Brad, it was white. A: The other intruder and Heather were in the front seat of Aaron's sweater on. Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the A: I got out. some glasses above the wet bar, and there was a bottle of Weller's, and connected to it. where you had driven from, approximate location? was at that time? coming up on the bank. I tied the sweater around his head. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. and go to school or go to where you were teaching? Q: What did you do when you parked your vehicle? A: On my vagina. Q: And did you recall any discussion between these two intruders as And then I was kicked, and then I The Carr brothers forced all of them to strip naked. when they're bringing people into the room? And that was it. said 'Hold on, I'm not done." A: Jason had an alarm clock that stayed lit. Q: Approximately did the incident occur with Heather and Aaron in that I didn't fall all the A: He started to resist, and they struck him over the head with the A: It was unlocked until you locked it again. television? They beat the men and raped the women. Let me turn back. You said you were sort of outside the room Q: After you had withdrawn the full amount of money that you could get A: I leaned out to get the money out of the ATM, and when I did that me "Relax" he wasn't going to shoot me yet. is also a separate room that's not closed off. another hundred and fifty. in a square shaped marks. correct? been discussing, from 11:00 to approximately the midnight hour, in all A: Not very. ), One brother held the three captives at gunpoint while the other roamed the complex and found Heather and Brad and brought them upstairs. Q: Were there other people you were acquainted with who lived at the I crossed 96 highway, climbed I could tell they were both black males, but A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. he wished we would have met under different circumstances because I was Q: Well, in comparison to you, did she spend a lot of time there? A: Yes, you could hear her moan every once in a while. A: One was just bigger than the other one. The trunk was closed. individuals, can you characterize them as calm or not calm? that time did you ever see a weapon displayed? but you're still kind of standing in the doorway because we were right Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason A: Right at the base of, at the back of his head. you had at that time? cute and we probably would have hit it off. go east, and drove up 127th Street to 21st Street and turned left. Q: And what was she doing when you came back? The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and . The closet light was on. outside of his doors, the wet bar is on the east side. Q: Was there any discussion at that time with regard to the animal? A: He was instructed to have intercourse with Heather. Q: After you had heard that comment, do you know what happened then? occasions, is that correct? A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. 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